John, Listen, You have to do what Peter Gillies is about to do. There are a number of these in and about to start. "Commonwealth Public Official" 'Certificate of Acknowledgement' Talk to Peter. Bob S
----- Original Message -----From: John WilsonTo: RmSent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 6:04 PMSubject: Re: s80 Constitution
Dear Roger, I've already filed in under their guard on numerous occasions, charging the "Judges" with many crimes and even the Premier with Treason (see http://www.rightsandwrong.com.au ). When they've woken up to what's in the documents, the "Judges" unanimously dismiss the actions and bar any access to Juries. That's why they've brought in outlandish legislation to try to stop ordinary People going to Court. In other words, it's all been done and we have a Grounds for Discontent such as nobody would have believed. Yours sincerely, John Wilson.
The stand you are taking is correct. But I must say your direct frontal approach is warning them of the weakness of their position leading them to fortify themselves thus preventing people from gaining access to their rights. They are sealing off all access to the system by people and hence their rights. All, continued confrontation is going to do, is to seal whatever remaining access there is. Then off course a revolution will be needed for change to take place. Is this where u are headed?
Stealth will have been better where you could have had your papers filed in court without them realizing it until it was too late. Anyway the die is cast u have made your plays and they are geared up to meet any eventuality. It is a war with you on one side and them on the other. You make your charge and they defend. They have usurped the system. You are on the outside they are on the inside.
You are left with no choice but to educate everyone which could take u an eon. In the meantime they have fine tuned the system of domination to a fine art with all the electronics, knowledge of human psychology and sophistication of centuries of experience.
All the luck
John Wilson wrote:
That reply from Peter Dutton is so inaccurate that it is truly
disturbing... that a Member of Parliament has such an interpretation of the laws of Australia can only mean that some bent lawyers have been in his ear and told him what to say.
We have a very serious situation akin to any in history that has led to
bloodshed and revolution. When Judges put themselves above the Law, deny the citizens their Right to Trial by Jury, and Members of Parliament endorse this Treachery, there seems no alternative than to do what the American Colonialist did when it happened to them in the 18th century. I still hope and pray for a civilized solution but, obviously, with the Banks controlling the Courts and the Parliaments, THE COURTS AND THE PARLIAMENTS ARE THE MEANS BY WHICH THE BANKS EXERT THEIR POWER TO SUBJUGATE US.
No State, No Parliament, No Judge, Nobody, No Way, can deprive us of our Right to Trial by Jury. TRIAL BY JURY IS DEMOCRACY, FREEDOM AND JUSTICE.
There simply has to be a PUBLIC DEBATE on NATIONAL TELEVISION in PRIME TIME between PATRIOTIC AUSTRALIANS, on one side, and PARLIAMENTARIANS and JUDGES, on the other.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eon Radley - Fire Technology Pty. Ltd." <email@example.com>
To: "'Dutton, Peter (MP)'" <Peter.Dutton.MP@aph.gov.au>
Cc: "'John Wilson'" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 12:12 PM
Subject: RE: s80 Constitution
Peter, thanks for responding however I would bring the following points to your attention.
I agree each state has it's own courts system, but just because we don't live in that state does not mean we cannot be called up to be tried under that system. At any time in the future you or I could be called up to answer to a charge within that states system which now excludes the right to trial by jury at the judges discretion. Do you believe one man should be allowed to decide your fate. And what's to say once it is established for a while in one state others won't try to follow because it suits the objectives of a few self interested persons.
As we are not in NSW we have no rights to request anything of a NSW member, that is why I must write to you in the hope you can place something in motion via your position.
Further you did not respond to the situation where judges are placing themselves above the law by refusing to allow the filing into court of any action bought against them, what is your stance on this do you want judges above the law or not.
Finally your comments clearly imply that legislation stands above the
Constitution. The Constitution to my understanding is supposed to be the last word and all other "laws" stand below it. That's why it is called the Constitution. This issue worries me as the Constitution is not to be overridden without reference to the people i.e.: a referendum.
I know you are an ex police officer and as such I assume you would be very aware of the need to be sure the courts serve the people who placed them there, not take over the running of the system because no one is above them to stop them except for members of Parliament such as yourself. The placing of the Constitution below State legislation should definitely be an issue of considerable concern and in your jurisdiction so please look into it on my behalf.
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From: Dutton, Peter (MP) [mailto:Peter.Dutton.MP@aph.gov.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 May 2005 10:14 AM
Subject: RE: s80 Constitution
Dear Mr. Radley
Thank you for your recent email regarding trials by jury, particularly
in the various cases involving Mr. John Wilson.
As I have previously advised, each State has a Supreme Court with
individual procedural rules. These courts are within the jurisdiction
of the State Government only, in this case the NSW State Government. The Federal Government has no jurisdiction over proceedings within these courts. This is clearly enunciated by the Constitution of Australia, in particular sections 107 and 51.
Section 107 of the Constitution states, "Every power of the Parliament of a Colony which has become or becomes a State, shall, unless it is by this Constitution exclusively vested in the Parliament of the Commonwealth or withdrawn from the Parliament of the State, continue as at the establishment of the Commonwealth, or as at the admission or establishment of the State, as the case may be." This section is supported by section 51, which outlines the powers of the Commonwealth.
The Commonwealth has only those powers listed in section 51, with the States retaining responsibility for any powers not expressly given to the Commonwealth, either through the Constitution or by an Act of the State Parliament. None of the sub-sections in section 51 give the Commonwealth the power to determine the procedural rules of a State Court.
Mr. Wilson purports to apply section 80 of the Australian Constitution to his matter within the State jurisdiction. This is a clear
misinterpretation of the section, which only applies to indictable
offences against Commonwealth law. Contempt of a State Court is not an indictable Commonwealth offence.
By determining that there is no right to trial by jury in this
circumstance, the Justices of the Supreme Court are not putting
themselves above the Australian Constitution. Should you have any
further enquiries regarding the NSW Supreme Court and the rules that govern its operation, these would be better directed to the NSW State Government.
Thank you again for contacting me with your concerns.
From: Eon Radley - Fire Technology Pty. Ltd. [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: Friday, 6 May 2005 10:24 AM
To: Dutton, Peter (MP)
Subject: FW: s80 Constitution
Peter, a bit of detail you should know regarding the Right to Trial by
Jury which is in our counties Constitution but frequently denied by the Judges. Are you comfortable with Judges placing themselves above our Constitution.
I would like to know your thoughts on this one.
Eon Radley. Email: firstname.lastname@example.org
From: John Wilson [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: Friday, 6 May 2005 9:02 AM
To: Discount Print
Subject: Re: s80 Constitution
s.80 of the Australian Constitution simply reinforces the Right to Trial by Jury existing in all the States at the time of Federation and says that the same applies to offences against Federal Laws. All Australian "Judges" (including those in the High Court) disobey the Rule of Law. They are frightened to death by the very idea of Trial by Jury. My book and Transcripts & Judgments (all on http://www.rightsandwrong.com.au ) are evidence of this. In a nutshell: It's called "Judicial Corruption & Treachery".
----- Original Message -----
From: "Discount Print" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
To: "John Wilson" <email@example.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 5:09 PM
Subject: s80 Constitution
COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA CONSTITUTION ACT - SECT 80 Trial by jury
The trial on indictment of any offence against any law of the Commonwealth shall be by jury, and every such trial shall be held in the State where the offence was committed, and if the offence was not committed within any State the trial shall be held at such place or places as the Parliament prescribes.
What's going on when we have our own constitution stating the law?
--- John Wilson <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
They know they are as guilty as hell ... so, they want to block access to our Courts.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Dempsey
To: John Wilson
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: "Judges" breaking the law to protect themselves
Right on John, these judges need to hear from us. I salute you.
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